Dirty Little Cable Secrets

Every review I write has an "associated equipment" graf in which I dutifully list all the major components of my reference surround system: speakers, subwoofer, surround receiver, and universal disc player. When I use my turntable, I list that as well as the phono cartridge and whatever I'm using as a phono preamp. But I never go into similar detail about another significant component in my system, namely the cables that tie everything together. Readers may be wondering what I use and why I use it. This blog will tell all my dirty little cable secrets.

Exactly what qualifies as a dirty little secret may be in the eye of the beholder. Would you be more disturbed to learn that I use sickeningly high-priced premium cable? Or that I use cheap generic cable? Or that many of my favorite cables are museum pieces that you can't get for love or money? Misanthropes, rejoice: I indulge in all three vices.

Where cable ideology is concerned, I'm a moderate. I'm not one of those critics who say all premium cable is snake oil—though the industry is certainly rife with ridiculously high markups and eyebrow-raising hype. Nor am I the kind of listener who spends inordinate amounts of time splitting hairs over tiny (or potentially nonexistent) performance differences between cables—I save that kind of attention for things like, say, oh, speakers and amps.

However, earlier in my career, I did a fair amount of experimenting with cables—enough to satisfy my curiosity and to determine what would best serve my reference system. I discovered that in the analog domain, cables do indeed sound different. Speaker cables can make a discernible difference in the sound of a system: whether it's bright, bass starved, or just right. I also found analog interconnects make a slight difference. In general I sought out cables that were, to my ears, as neutral as possible.

In the digital domain, my ears were less fussy. One coaxial digital cable sounded much the same as another as long as it had the right characteristic impedance, similar to that of a composite video cable. Likewise, I did not hear differences among optical digital cables, nor did I prefer coaxial to optical. By the way, I will be gravely disappointed in my readers if that last statement doesn't inspire some zesty hate mail, as it has always done in the past.

However, I did notice that coaxial cables were much sturdier than optical cables, which cease working when kinked. And the immunity of optical cables from hum must be counted as a significant plus. In practice, my system had no hum problem, so I chose coaxial for ruggedness, at least until HDMI arrived. Then I stopped using either of them. Today, there are no coaxial or optical cables in my reference surround system. The only coaxial digital connection left in my life is the link between a CD player and my desktop amp. I don't use optical cables except, when absolutely necessary, in soundbar reviews.

By the time the HDMI and USB interfaces arrived, I was no longer in an experimental mood and just settled on whatever I could get for free and whatever worked. It might be interesting to do extensive ears-on testing with these types of cables, but my tiny storage space is full of speakers and receivers waiting to be reviewed and they interest me more. Anyway, enough introductory remarks. What cables does Mark use?

Back when I bothered to compare speaker cables, I found that I preferred those that were least bright, and after much experimentation, Monster Cable emerged as the candidate with the least aggressive top end and best overall balance (though Liberty Cable was a serious runner up). Cables with more prestigious names and higher pricetags offered more detail at some sensitive frequencies but they always wore out their welcome with listening fatigue. So I said to hell with boutique mystique and went with Monster. The last time I acquired speaker cables, I asked the late Daniel Graham of Monster to help me find a cable that was 12-gauge, fireproof, and heavily insulated. By process of elimination, the answer was M1.2s and M1.4s (the biwire version). I have used them ever since.

I have a full five-channel set of M1.2s and a duplicate set of M1.4s for the three front channels. Amazon sells the 15-foot length I use for the front channels for less than $100/pair, half off the list price. The cables have a screw-on termination that allows me to switch between banana plugs (my preference) and spade lugs (which I never use). Those cables have served in 90 percent of the speaker and receiver reviews I've written since I joined this magazine as a contributor in 2001.

On the rare occasions when bare-tipped cables are unavoidable, I use Monster's original THX-certified ribbon cable, with bare tips for the speakers and banana plugs at the receiver end. It looks an awful lot like the current model XP, which is not THX-certified, but is probably the same thing. When even those are too thick for certain narrow, inaccessible, or otherwise problematic speaker terminals, I resort to whatever skinny generic speaker cable will fit, adding banana plug adapters for the receiver.

I'm a home theater kind of guy, so HDMI is the dominant video and audio interface in my main system. For the link between my two Blu-ray players and the surround receiver I use high-end cables kindly provided by Tributaries. They are old models, no longer offered, but they are bulletproof and will probably outlast my heart and lungs. For the link from receiver to TV I use the cable supplied with my Oppo disc player, and whenever I need to recommend an affordable HDMI cable, I recommend those available on the Oppo Digital site, though the Amazon house brand might do just as well (I say might because I haven't tried it). For the link between cable box and TV, I use the generic cable provided with the cable box.

Though I no longer use digital coaxial or optical cables in the main system, two analog interconnects are unavoidable: from receiver to subwoofer, and from phono preamp to receiver. For the long run from receiver to subwoofer, I use a flexible but sturdy cable pilfered from a Velodyne subwoofer review sample. I did promise you dirty little secrets, right? OK: I stole it. Apologies to the manufacturer.

The other regularly used analog cable connects the various devices I use as phono preamps to the receiver (the turntable having its own hardwired cable). I use Esoteric Artus, another product from the distant past. That's the navy blue cable pictured above. Nope, it's not available any more, and if it were, you probably couldn't afford it. Here's some dirt: In their time these were among the most expensive interconnect cables around. I dimly remember that a one-meter pair cost $600. And here's some more dirt: As a contributor to various well-known publications, I got them free. Bwahahahaha. In fact, I got several pairs (one to two meters). I'd never dream of spending that much of my own money for a set of cables, so there's another dirty little secret: I'm a hypocrite.

But I do love-love-love these cables and have used them constantly for this and that ever since I got them. Back when I was doing ears-on tests of analog interconnects, these were the champions. I was then, and still remain, convinced that they do not interfere the sound of my system: no additive brightness, no bass attenuation. It goes without saying that they are structurally sound. And in lieu of the death-grip plugs many fancy cable makers prefer, the Artus has a plug that gradually tightens around the jack when you rotate the plug housing. That means that I will never damage a review sample by wrenching a death-grip cable out of a jack. The Artuses have been keeping me out of trouble for more than 20 years.

That does it for the modern-day reference system. Back in the primordial mists of time, when I occasionally needed to connect surround pre-pros to multichannel amps, I used a set of six half-meter XLO analog interconnects with a green plug. Nothing that looks like it appears on the company's website today. I liked it because it actually wasn't that fancy looking, just a mechanically and sonically reliable cable with a secure but not death-grippy plug. As with all the cables mentioned here, there may be some interesting design and construction features that I'm not going to touch with a ten-foot pole because I have no way of knowing for sure if any given one makes an audible difference. I do respect the end result, though.

Later on, when I used the analog multichannel interface to connect DVD and SACD players to the receiver, I used a set of six half-meter Silver Serpents from BetterCables.com (the grey snakeskin cable pictured above). They are still sold and will set you back $60 per pair. I'll even go out on a limb and say they're worth it, so no dirt here. They are sonically neutral, the plug is easy-on and easy-off, and they really took a beating as I connected and disconnected them countless times. I still use them when I need a half-meter analog interconnect that has to be absolutely trustworthy.

I also favored a half-meter length of the BetterCables Silver Serpent Digital ($35) for the coaxial digital connection between receiver and disc player. It hasn't been used for years; I connect my disc player with HDMI now. My favorite Toslink optical cable is a one-meter Vampire Wire cable. Like many of my favorite cables, it's history and does not appear on the company's website. When I review a soundbar requiring an optical cable from TV table to disc player, which in my system is more than a meter, I use a two-meter generic cable. I probably pilfered that one too, though frankly, I don't remember from whom. Though nerve-wrackingly slender and fragile, it works, and I haven't managed to destroy it yet. All my Toslink cables are reverently coiled and stored in a filing cabinet drawer, safe from harm.

My venerable Jeff Rowland Model One stereo amp and Consonance preamp are rarely used. Not because I don't love them, just because I rarely review speakers in pairs. But on the special occasions when they're up and running, I have two choices of XLR analog interconnects. One is a one-meter pair of the Cardas Crosslink, the company's entry-level interconnect, one of the few premium cables I've ever purchased, and not very long ago. Sorry, no dirt. You can pick up a one-meter pair from Audio Advisor for $170. The alternative XLR, if the amp and preamp can't fit onto the rack at the same time, would be a considerably longer pair by XLO, which does not appear on the company's website. Someday, when I no longer review receivers, the Model One will take up permanent residence on the rack's guest receiver berth and I'll rediscover my two-channel youth.

The cables in my desktop 2.1-channel system are subject to change. But currently they include Audience Ohno speaker cables, which at $199 for a three-foot pair may qualify as another dirty little secret to the premium-cable-hating reader. They replaced generic 12-gauge just a year ago and have a modest clarifying effect on the upper midrange. The amp's variable stereo outputs are connected to the sub with a pair of Straight Wire cables that are two meters long, have transparent red jackets, and are no longer on the company's website. The Red Book CD player feeding the desktop amp is connected with an older equivalent of Monster's current Interlink Datalink coaxial digital cable ($40 for one-meter length).

The house USB DAC is connected to the multimedia PC with a generic USB cable that has gold-colored-plugs and a ferrite core—I think of it as my lucky USB cable because it never glitches. I use a generic two-meter analog interconnect from DAC to desktop amp, largely because I don't have many two-meter cables to choose from. I should really upgrade the latter, so there's another dirty little secret, though this DAC is just for casual use. When reviewing USB DACs, or headphones while using a USB DAC, I use the lucky USB cable, move the DAC closer to the amp, and exchange the two-meter generic cable for a one-meter Esoteric Artus.

My headphone extension cables, both 15 feet and bought last year, include the Grado Extension Cable with quarter-inch plug and jack ($40) and a Parts Express cable with mini-plug and jack which Amazon sells for $5. I avoid using them for headphone reviews but at other times they can be convenient.

A complete inventory of my cable collection is impossible. A few years ago I discarded several shopping bags of cables, the inflated retail value of which would pay my rent for months, and still had enough left to fill a jumbo-subwoofer-size carton and a kitchen cabinet space measuring 46 by 13 by 17 inches. Both are just packed solid. Another cable purge may be imminent. If you stand around near my building long enough, you may be able to catch some as I fling them out the kitchen window.

Readers are invited to weigh in on cable issues. What cables do you use? How do you think they sound compared to other things you've tried, if indeed there's any difference at all? Your HDMI cable experiences and picks may be especially welcome to home theater oriented readers.

Audio Editor Mark Fleischmann is the author of Practical Home Theater: A Guide to Video and Audio Systems.

COMMENTS
Old Ben's picture

I've never understood subjective terms like "bright." Has anyone ever tested different speaker wire with an oscilloscope? My thought is you would set up a system to play white noise or other noise with a large frequency spectrum. Use an oscilloscope and a microphone to quantify the frequencies and amplitudes output by the speaker. Switch the cable and repeat.

harbir's picture

"I discovered that in the analog domain, cables do indeed sound different. Speaker cables can make a discernible difference in the sound of a system: whether it's bright, bass starved, or just right."

I won't claim whether this is true or not, but I will say that given the human mind's objective fallibility due to suggestion, we have no way of knowing whether this is snake oil or not unless it is verified objectively.

Have you heard of a sneaky experiment on wine tasting? From the Real Clear Science website:

"dissertation by Frédéric Brochet, then a PhD candidate at the University of Bordeaux II in Talence, France. His big finding lit a fire under the seats of wine snobs everywhere.

In a sneaky study, Brochet dyed a white wine red and gave it to 54 oenology (wine science) students. The supposedly expert panel overwhelmingly described the beverage like they would a red wine. They were completely fooled.

The research, later published in the journal Brain and Language, is now widely used to show why wine tasting is total BS. But more than that, the study says something fascinating about how we perceive the world around us: that visual cues can effectively override our senses of taste and smell"

THis is at play in audiophilia as well. Now, since many kids are fed and many mortagages paid with a religious conviction in the whether one cable sounds silky and another like honey, and with the extinction of the last vestiges of Stereo Review, I don't expect people who make their living from offering subjective opinions to be at any great risk from their readers if they make unverified assertions about the sound quality of cables and whatnot.

But I will say that speakers and subwoofers apart, I disregard subjective opinions offered by reviewers on audio equipment. THe reviewer may be on the money. or he may not. Given the susceptibility of the mind to suggestion (including self suggestion), I think its more likely than not that he is.

So, I'd suggest proving your point with double blind testing.

Not that I expect it'll happen. the reviewer industry has so far done very well in smothering any credible objectivity being introduced that might tell us the truth about the repeatability and verifiability of subjective opinions. I recall conversations with one audio dealer, from the listserv days, who was a pretty prominent figure then in the high end audio retail scene, who reacted to the idea of double blind testing with something resembling the Spanish Inquisition.

This comment will sink into the cyber ocean and people (manufacturers, retailers, reviewers) will carry on making livelihoods from peddling ideas and opinions as credible and as unverified as those of wine tasting experts.

Mark Fleischmann's picture
I appreciate the courteous and nuanced nature of your post. But I respectfully disagree about the validity of double blind testing. The fallacy of double blind testing is that a few seconds or minutes of double blind listening are sufficient to judge anything. In that respect, wine tasting and double blind testing of audio equipment have something in common -- they are both based on snap judgments made almost instantly. I certainly wouldn't attempt to describe loudspeakers or a receiver without many hours of listening spread out over many days (sometimes weeks). I would rather trust a subjectivist reviewer who really does his homework, spending hours, days, or weeks to arrive at his descriptions of the product. Our full-length reviews do have an objective component with measurements by our technical editors. But even that is no substitute for sustained, careful, thoughtful listening.
utopianemo's picture

Mark, I just lost all respect for your reviews.

Or maybe, I like you even more. Since a lot of what reviewers do is make comparisons, Mark, I personally feel that the cables in your system don't matter too much. What matters is that you have a baseline(reference) understanding of how your system sounds as a whole, so that when you change a component out for something else, you can relate to me and the rest of us how the new gear sounds compared to that baseline. You do that consistently well, and that's why I look for your reviews and give them weight when making decisions about what I want to purchase.

DS-21's picture

and you totally misrepresent double-blind testing to score cheap points.

There's no limit to how long one can "familiarize" herself with the "sound" of the various parts. The trick is, a real difference doesn't disappear when one can't see what's playing.

Ethyl's Fred's picture

If you can demonstrate that the gold standard of scientific study of human perception is flawed then you should publish your work in a scientific journal. You will become very well known in the area and significant research funding is sure to follow. I suggest you submit your manuscript to the Journal of Experimental Psychology: Human Perception and Performance or Journal of Sensory Studies. Let us know how the peer review comes out.

Mark Fleischmann's picture
I see my advocacy of longterm listening has a few readers feeling threatened. This suggests they have long entrenched positions of their own. Nonetheless that is how I work, it is what I enjoy, and it has a close relation to my love of music. Show me a double blind test that involves listening to an entire album. Until then, I'll live without it. If you distrust longterm listening and resent subjectivists so much, why occupy your time reading our work? Perhaps you'd be happier reading the scientific journals you refer to -- presumably while listening to sliced-and-diced musical excerpts played on a system behind a curtain. For my own part, I prefer to spend my time with music. For hours on end. I'm happier that way -- and I have no trouble relating to other people who love music.
Ethyl's Fred's picture

I browse Sound and Vision periodically because, being the descendant of Stereo Review, it still has a higher ratio of legitimate information (features on the newest receivers, for example) to pseudoscience than publications like The Absolute Sound. I usually just filter out the pseudoscience. But when an article asks readers to give their comments and the author then dismisses a reader's legitimate concern's with a caricature of the science, I feel compelled to comment so that any other reader may recognize that they are being unintentionally misled by said author.

Twice now you have asserted that rigorous human perception studies do not apply to listening. Can you provide any substantial evidence to back up that statement? The journals I listed will provide you with any number of double-blind tests with any time interval to make a selection that you like. If you really want to serve your readers, you might take the time to understand why a particular testing protocol has been established rather than just dismissing it out of hand.

Mark Fleischmann's picture
I did indeed ask readers to "give their comments" -- on their experience with cables. You ignored that invitation and raised a tangential issue which is completely unmentioned in my original text. You also employed a strawman argument, claiming "you have asserted that rigorous human perception studies do not apply to listening." I never asserted any such thing, though I did say (in my first response) that these methods are based on snap judgments and (in my second response) that I prefer not to employ them, finding longterm listening more professionally relevant and personally rewarding. If you disagree, that is your privilege, but if you think I'm going to spend lavish amounts of time to "provide any substantial evidence" regarding your tangential and basically irrelevant issue, be prepared to wait forever. I have listening to do and reviews to write.
Ethyl's Fred's picture

"But I respectfully disagree about the validity of double blind testing." That is what got me to respond in the first place. (Note that I did not bring it up initially.) You have now asserted it for the third time by saying "these methods are based on snap judgments," which is incorrect. Your refusal to make any effort to understand even how double-blind tests can be performed, much less why they are the gold standard in human perception studies, shows that you prefer to remain ignorant. Fine. But if you continue dismiss the science in ignorance you should prepared to be asked for supporting evidence. Those who read your articles expecting valid guidance (and allow you to be paid a publication fee) deserve no less.

Mark Fleischmann's picture
If you want me to discuss the topic of your choosing on the terms of your choosing, we are at an impasse. At the risk of repeating myself: "Readers are invited to weigh in on cable issues. What cables do you use? How do you think they sound compared to other things you've tried, if indeed there's any difference at all? Your HDMI cable experiences and picks may be especially welcome to home theater oriented readers."
DS-21's picture

"Audio as a hobby is dying, largely by its own hand. As far as the real world is concerned, high-end audio lost its credibility during the 1980s, when it flatly refused to submit to the kind of basic honesty controls (double-blind testing, for example) that had legitimized every other serious scientific endeavor since Pascal. [This refusal] is a source of endless derisive amusement among rational people and of perpetual embarrassment for me, because I am associated by so many people with the mess my disciples made of spreading my gospel. ***" -J. Gordon Holt, founding editor, Stereophile

JGH was right: it's attitudes like yours that have marginalized music reproduction.

Mark Fleischmann's picture
Has audio died? I'm flattered that you think me powerful enough to be the cause. But to really understand JGH's contention, it would help to know when exactly he made it. I Googled it; the answer is probably 1992. From a 2014 perspective, product categories like headphones, USB DACs, and soundbars are not dying -- more like exploding. If traditional audio categories aren't doing as well, in JGH's era or our own, I wonder if a lack of analytical rigor among audio critics is really the reason. I suspect the failure to connect, if there is one, lies on a deeper level, and has cultural and economic (not to mention technological) roots that haven't been acknowledged here. For instance, in the 1970s, Japan sold boatloads of stereo receivers to the United States. Having lived in that era, I remember several of the causes including a blossoming of musicians and bands I loved, a healthy economy, and the mass-marketing of audio technologies (such as stereo and solid state amps) that had been developing since the '50s and '60s. Since then, the economy and recording industry have fallen on hard times, and new forces at work, such as streaming and downloading, aren't necessarily driving improvements in audio quality, though there's always hope. To the extent I'm able, I'd like to keep that hope alive and encourage it to grow. It's an enterprise that takes a certain amount of goodwill among music lovers and audio buffs, though sadly, sometimes this essential quality is lacking.
Stosh's picture

So who says that double blind tests have to be limited to "a few seconds or minutes" of listening? Why can't such a study be designed to be carried out over hours or days (or weeks, though that seems excessive)? I'm sorry, but I agree with harbir; every time the subject of double blind testing is brought up, the audio/video professionals attack it with assumptions like yours, or even more off-the-wall absurd excuses. It seems the industry is afraid of any such testing. I understand that you guys make your living on subjective listening and reporting, but I've been hearing excuses against double blind testing for decades now, and I have yet to hear any truly compelling arguments against them. Mostly I've read a lot of long-winded excuses and arguments that, in the long run, just aren't convincing.

I've been a subscriber of Sound and Vision, and its various predecessors, for decades. I find the articles useful, and I have used them to help determine my audio and video purchases. So I'm not attacking your industry as a whole; I find it helpful and fun. But on this one subject, the irrational animosity everyone shows is just suspect and disappointing.

utopianemo's picture

Scott Wilkinson interviewed Jon Iverson a week or two back on this issue. It was a fantastic listen. Jon being a reviewer, I'm sure you know where his sympathies lie, but it was an insightful discussion and I definitely agree with his points. The ensuing discussion on AVSforum was also helpful.

DS-21's picture

During my wayward days before I really learned to listen, I clung to the delusion that "interconnects" were audio components instead of commodity parts. During that time - ca. 1997-8 - I picked up a set of those Esoteric Audio Artus too. Though mine are more teal than navy. Regardless of wire "sound," these things do have the best RCA connector ever invented. Even better than the WBTs and other locking male RCAs. It's too bad they haven't been widely copied.

dommyluc's picture

When I bought my HDTV, A/V receiver, and BD player a few years back, I purchased MediaBridge Ultra Series 6-foot HDMI cables from the Big A. They were about $8.00 each at the time. The picture and sound on my system from the BD player and the DirecTV box, as well as from the audio and video streaming capabilities from the BD player and the receiver, are fabulous.
Do I worry that some person 5 miles down the road may have more expensive cables? No, not really.
Do I worry that Kim Kardashian may be the destruction of the American way of life as we know it? Yes, definitely!

utopianemo's picture

Kardashian, Hilton, Ke$ha, Bieber..........Sorry, that's all my memory permits at present. There has been a never-ending stream of 'threats' since way before any of us were born. They're only threatening if one pays them any mind, and they're only threatening until they're gone, replaced by the next threat.

Ethyl's Fred's picture

To address this invitation directly, choose speaker wires that are of a sufficient gauge to insure that their resistance is only a few tenths of an ohm on their longest run. Choose interconnects that are well-made enough that they don't fail during routine connection and movement. Anything beyond that is a waste of money, as has been demonstrated numerous times through controlled psychoacoustical testing and rigorous engineering analysis. (Audio does not have its own special scientific laws that differ from those that apply to the rest of the world.) Use the savings to buy music ranging from Beethoven to Bieber.

Dave B's picture

Hi Mark,
Nothing brings out the trolls like mentioning cables, eh? I've dabbled in swapping signal-level and speaker cables for years, with moderate success in reaching a happy place with my system's sound (and my budget). However, the single greatest sonic improvements occurred when I upgraded my AC power cables. The first one I ever tried was a borrowed, entry-level PS audio cable that I used to replace the stock power cord on my Panamax surge suppressor -- and it blew me away!

You didn't mention them, but have you ever tried any aftermarket power cables?

Mark Fleischmann's picture
My official position on premium power cables is agnostic. Without having spent serious time trying a bunch of them at length, as I once did with speaker cables and interconnects, I'm not for or against them. However, I did get an unsolicited sample from AudioQuest, and when a Woo WA6 headphone amp arrived without a power cable, I used it. This was out of power expediency, so I can't tell you how it stacked up against a generic cable. I may revisit the topic someday.
SimboSambo's picture

Thanks for the blog and the insights - fascinating, as usual. Shame you had to put up with off-topic attacks, but I guess that the Internet for you...

Some years ago I became a convert to the theory that quality cables can make an enormous difference when connecting electronic devices. One cable does not equal another. As it happens, the revelation came with VGA cables... I discovered long ago that replacing the cheap VGA cable that came as standard with computer monitors (back in the CRT days) with a better, albeit not ferociously expensive, VGA cable could quite literally transform the quality of the display. For a $15 spend, the results could be gob-smacking.

The same results were found with SCART cables. Any time I got a new TV / cable box / DVD player, the first thing in the bin was the horribly cheap, plastic SCART cable that came in the box. The difference a $20 SCART cable would make to the picture quality was astounding.

So I definitely accept that cables can make a difference.

I will soon be in the envious position of building a brand new home theatre / home entertainment system from scratch. Rack, TV, receiver, 5.1 speakers, blu-ray player, the whole lot. It is about 8 years since I last did it, and I'm very excited at the prospect :-)

One of my big questions, however, is about the speaker wire I should use. Between the fronts and rears, we'll probably be talking about between 80 and 100 feet of wire, in total.

I don't want to spend a fortune on the speaker wire if I can avoid it, but equally I don't want to hamper the performance of the system unnecessarily. Budget-wise, I'm thinking of about $4750 in total for everything, including $600 for the receiver, $1400 for the speakers, and $1500 for the TV. My hope is that I can get reasonable speaker wire for maybe $100 or so.

Do you think this is feasible / reasonable? I can get 100 feet of reasonable looking 14 gauge wire on Amazon for $33. I can also get 100 feet for $185. What would you suggest as a guide budget? Is there a relatively inexpensive speaker wire you would suggest to friends?

Thanks again for your great work and informative articles and blogs. Don't let the trolls get you down ;-)

S.

Mark Fleischmann's picture
Given your budget and the cost of your other components, generic speaker cable is the way to go. But make it 12-gauge, not 14-gauge. As a later upgrade path, if you do a meaningful amount of listening in stereo, you might explore upgrading the front left and right channels. Some dealers loan cables to let consumers hear for themselves whether they're worth it or not.
Laurie H's picture

Thanks for the info on your cable set up and the rationale you used to arrive at the end point of your current cable collection. It is hilarious seeing the reaction from the trolls who clearly have little time for cable comparisons but substantial time to stress that their take on the topic is the only 'scientifically, double blind tested, snake oil precluding one'. I love it how they state this - whilst somehow living in your house, listening to your equipment with your ears through your specific power grid connections - I am suprised that you have never noticed them - trolls clearly rock ! - I on the otherhand don't do any of that and simply enjoyed a person expressing his take on what he found worked in his system. It makes you guys a little more real and for that I thank you. Keep on enjoying the listening and forgive the trolls for they know not what they do (or at least have not found anyone to do a double blind assessment of their own failings with them). PS - I used the Monster cable for several decades and continue to do so but I also now use Nordost Blue Heaven Tri-Wired (sorry trolls) for my main speakers and some of my interconnects in my Living Room system and the Monster across the board in my Bedroom system. Over time I found the Monster a bit too laid back for my main system and the Nordost gives that specific system a bit of a 'lift'. I have a OPPO BDP105 as my source in the main system and it is connected to my Cambridge Audio 851A via Nordost (RCA) and Kimber Hero XLR)cables. When level matched within .1 of a DB(A) - the Kimber sounds slightly more refined and the Nordost has significanly more detail. The journey continues.

boulderskies's picture

Mark, as always, I enjoyed reading your blog. And thank you for giving us a detailed look at your system and why you chose the cables you did. Perhaps the ill-gotten cables sound better because of their method of acquisition? I'm sure there's a study on that somewhere...I digress. The first point I wanted to make is that no matter how we slice it, the enjoyment of audio is subjective. We can apply all the tests and stats available, but in the end, its where we enjoy our systems.

Secondly, I have found that long term listening tends to acclimate me to the change in sound, whether it be a new cable, loud speakers, amp, etc. At the end of say, a month of detailed listening, it usually comes down to: "Do I still enjoy this or is it fatiguing?" So snap judgements might be a good start on whether a change should be made but long term listening will tell you if a change was really for the better or not.

I find it quite simple and all the analysis tiresome. And of course distracting from enjoying the music.

Keep up the great working and don't let the naysayers suck you into energy sapping exchanges.

Jim's picture

Pretty much, line level cables in my system are S-video cables with gold plated connectors on them.

If the cable can pass video with a 75-ohm load, I can't imagine that it wouldn't pass audio with a 10k load. The gold connectors keep things from corroding.

20 years of this, and so far, so good. Oh, I do my own soldering.

monstercableman2014's picture

Audiophile, Engineer, Musician. It all started 35 years ago when world famous Noel Lee identified that not all cables are created equally. PURE Monster sound was founded on the principal of getting you behind the glass of the artist as if you were sitting in the studio the day it was recorded. Am I a supported and fan of Monster cable of course! Saying all cables are the same is crazy! That’s like saying live music is as good as listening to the radio? Get real, get Monster Cable!

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